WEBVTT

00:11.130 --> 00:12.570
Meet Mike Rinder,

00:12.670 --> 00:17.400
a featured source in Alex Gibney’s video
on the Church of Scientology.

00:17.500 --> 00:21.470
A man expelled long ago
for malfeasance, criminal activity,

00:21.570 --> 00:25.730
incompetence, lying,
laziness and violence.

00:25.830 --> 00:29.070
But if you want to truly know
the measure of the man

00:29.170 --> 00:31.830
just ask his former colleagues.

00:32.430 --> 00:35.400
The ten years that I worked
with Mike Rinder were

00:35.500 --> 00:39.500
positively ghastly, is about
the nicest thing I can say about them.

00:39.600 --> 00:43.130
He didn't make it, you know,
like a nice working relationship.

00:43.300 --> 00:45.930
He was not a very nice
person to deal with,

00:46.030 --> 00:48.030
so you didn't want to
work with him anyway,

00:48.130 --> 00:49.370
and he didn't want to work with you.

00:49.470 --> 00:52.170
Mike Rinder was the least caring
person I ever met.

00:52.270 --> 00:54.430
Never interested, never asked me
how I was doing,

00:54.530 --> 00:58.430
never anything. It was just
a very, very cold person.

00:58.530 --> 01:03.270
His ability to make you feel inadequate,

01:03.370 --> 01:05.870
stupid, incompetent,

01:05.970 --> 01:08.630
in such a way that
you've never felt like that before.

01:08.730 --> 01:11.000
He was constantly
putting people in a bad spot,

01:11.100 --> 01:14.600
making them look bad,
making them feel awful.

01:14.700 --> 01:17.430
I've never met anyone that I would

01:17.530 --> 01:21.700
compare to Mike Rinder
for arrogance and cruelty.

01:21.800 --> 01:25.030
The self-importance that he gave himself

01:25.130 --> 01:28.400
made people think that
he was something that he was not,

01:28.500 --> 01:30.570
and we were all fooled.

01:30.670 --> 01:34.270
He just kept getting demoted, demoted,
because he didn't do anything.

01:34.370 --> 01:38.300
But he would still walk around
as if he was somebody,

01:38.400 --> 01:41.170
but it was just an air,
and that was just Mike.

01:41.270 --> 01:44.670
He's one of these guys that
comes to the party and it's like,

01:44.770 --> 01:47.700
everybody else is doing the work,
everybody else is setting it up,

01:47.800 --> 01:51.370
and he's just sitting there,
gleaming off of everybody else.

01:51.570 --> 01:54.600
His contribution was in a negative range.

01:54.700 --> 01:57.600
And the fact that so much compassion
was extended to him

01:57.700 --> 02:02.370
to try and help him to be motivated
and to have a higher work ethic,

02:02.470 --> 02:05.800
and constant and repeated attempts
were made and he still did it;

02:05.900 --> 02:08.530
I guess you would just call it
unreformable at that point.

02:08.630 --> 02:11.800
He was creating havoc, and he was
doing it in such a cunning way

02:11.900 --> 02:12.930
it was unbelievable.

02:13.030 --> 02:17.970
When he was in the Church,
he wasn't on any lines that were

02:18.070 --> 02:21.000
the real workings of the Church.
He was on, you know,

02:21.100 --> 02:24.270
one narrow part of external affairs
and did it very badly,

02:24.370 --> 02:26.270
so mostly was banned from doing it.

02:26.370 --> 02:31.670
After having basically messed up
and not done a good job

02:31.770 --> 02:35.900
or shown any competency at any
of the projects he'd been assigned,

02:36.000 --> 02:39.970
it was becoming clear that
he really couldn't be trusted.

02:40.070 --> 02:42.200
Towards the end of his time in Scientology,

02:42.300 --> 02:45.470
I think he was like the guy
they sent out to get the coffee.

02:45.570 --> 02:47.870
It didn't matter how low he went,

02:47.970 --> 02:51.130
he continued to be this
outrageously arrogant person.

02:51.230 --> 02:55.230
Pretty much anything he touched went wrong,
so we're quite happy that he's gone.

02:55.330 --> 02:59.530
He never contributed and he's not about to,
so it's no loss really.

02:59.630 --> 03:01.370
Nobody ever wants to see him again,

03:01.470 --> 03:03.570
they don't want to have
anything to do with him.

03:03.670 --> 03:05.470
Good riddance.

03:06.600 --> 03:08.300
That’s Mike Rinder.

03:08.400 --> 03:12.870
Featured source and “poster boy”
for Alex Gibney’s documentary.

03:12.970 --> 03:15.200
Prone to laziness, slothful...

03:15.300 --> 03:16.530
- Ineffective...
- A liability...

03:16.630 --> 03:17.630
- Cynical...
- Very arrogant...

03:17.730 --> 03:19.200
- Dishonest...
- He's a bullshit artist...

03:19.300 --> 03:21.000
- He’s a con man...
- Definitely a liar...

03:21.100 --> 03:22.630
Completely self-centered...

03:22.730 --> 03:24.100
Very rude, very demeaning...

03:24.200 --> 03:26.330
- Antagonistic...
- A complete coward...

03:26.430 --> 03:29.430
Who wants a co-worker like that?
No one.

03:29.530 --> 03:32.430
But you won’t hear that from Alex Gibney.

03:32.530 --> 03:34.870
I think we got the story that we wanted.

03:34.970 --> 03:40.370
It’s not the truth. It’s Alex Gibney. On HBO.

